It feels like after seeing Zain win Genesis 7 and seeing the 2019 rankings for Melee the evolution of the character charts is going to start becoming even more prominent. Ultimate. The matchup chart was based around both the opinions of professional players of each character, as well as our own experience through playing Marth. 2. I think 2022 I was very fixated and obsessed with claiming No. so I guess we should start from the top of the new tier. Zain obviously wants to remain the top player in Smash Melee, but hes trying not to focus on that as much this year. Characters: Nintendo / HAL Laboratory, Inc. / Pokmon. It appears that you are using ad block :'(. Link is the only character who is hardcountered and has a hardcounter. Privacy Policy. still lots of challenging/bad match ups. http://www.smashboards.com/threads/official-bbr-matchup-chart-v1-0.298484/, http://smashboards.com/threads/official-swf-matchup-chart-v2-0.316173/. Edgeguarding: Even. I started to write notes and descriptions to serve as my own personal 'Marth reference guide'. Made it easier to hit the high-damage range. Spike is underrated. Completing any of these, then defeating Marth when they appear in the a New Challenger Appears screen will allow you to use them afterward. +2 = Advantage. Since I've started learning Melee I've been training and practicing almost completely in isolation; with the exceptions being my brother Seshiro and close friend Size14Gerudo who I play against frequently. If you're aware of a tech that is not listed here, or would like to contribute to this list in any other way, players, message me if you want to play. Last summer he was ranked No. Giovanna - 4.7. He hasnt won an offline Summit yet; he finished 5th-6th at both Smash Summit 13 and 14 last year, which were among his two worst performances of 2022. He rounded out his year with another Supermajor win later in the year at the Ludwig Smash Invitational. -2 = Disadvantage. +1 = Slight Advantage or Even. Hes also trying to take better care of his body so that hes at peak competitive form. That includes getting enough sleep, watching his diet and working out more, in particular cardio. This site uses cookies. Hopefully there will be more players in the coming years who take their characters to the next level rather than just jumping to a new main once they hit the matchup wall. In total, three tournament winners used Fox during their runs, but Mang0 is technically a dual main with Falco and Fox, with Falco taking precedent most of the time in his matches. 2. Marth can combo sheik. Zain and his signature Marth went 3-4 against iBDW and his Fox last year. It doesn't launch opponents as far as his other smash attacks do, but it hits in front of and behind Marth, making it good for covering opponents trying to land an attack on either side. 13.0.1 Patch Notes and Balance Changes. I'm STT_PureDrop - a software developer from South Carolina who loves SSBM. The character matchup chart is a color-coded table detailing the approximate difficulty of all possible matches for any given character against any other character in Super Smash Bros. Melee based on two players of equal skill. Divided into stages, ordered by difficulty, and full of technical challenges. The ratings are on the following scales: Difficulty: (Swordmaster Lord: Harbinger of 20BC). This thread will cover the remaining 24 sets of Swiss Pools. Of course, the pandemic would put a pause on this new era until late 2021 and early 2022. 1 in the rankings, he said. Marth-Fox 50-50 (I know a lot of people think Marth wins but I can't let go of the opinion that this is even). But outside of that there were no solo-Fox players that were able to take home the big victories. As a coding project I created a program that takes google form responses and turns them into a weighted and sorted matchup chart. [Link to Day 2 thread] (https://old.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/f3vsc2/smash_summit_9_day_2_upsetgeneral_match_thread/). ], IBDW is one of many players who only play Fox, not having a secondary at all despite being a Top 10 player in the world. A character matchup is a measure of how even a fight is between two characters in a tournament setting. When Will the Next DLC Character Come Out? He went on to place 17th after beating KJH and Tafokints.He notably took a set off of Leffen 3-2 at Smash 'N' Splash 3 placing 13th, and sets off of ChuDat . The timeline is divided into 5 stages, each of which is more difficult and complex than the last. Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! please get PGStats or someone to create a new community polled matchup chart. Following Genesis, Zain won Pound to give him back-to-back Major wins. He said that iBDW has really revamped the Fox/Marth matchup. Although he beat aMSa twice at the start of the year, aMSa beat Zain three straight times to end the year. 2023 Nerd Street Gamers. The attacks will change when holding up or down during the input of the 2nd attack onward. Though i still also think the matchup IS slightly worse in NTSC. The matchup chart was based around both the opinions of professional players of each character, as well as our own experience through playing Marth. Zain and his signature Marth went 3-4 against iBDW and his Fox last year. The move deals extreme knockback to the opponent in front of Marth, usually resulting in a KO. Due to the chart's age, it does not properly represent shifts and innovations in the metagame since it was made, so characters who have risen since previous iterations of the tier list, such as Pikachu and Yoshi may have weaker matchup spreads shown than what is currently accurate. Sheik will definetly benefit more from a better dthrow than marth will from his spike overall. Notes About Matchup Chart 1. Complaints, recommendations, corrections, questions, requests, all feedback is welcome! Just look how broken he was in PM with a good shield and a few buffs. Everybody except Fox and Falco are countered by atleast one character. Even though hes trying not to think about it, Zain is excited about the opportunity to achieve this legendary accomplishment, and even teased that he wants more. Also, the names here are what I call these techniques personally. However those with decent spacing combined with Puff's CC'ing options vs marth and gay *** rests, aerial movement, and DI potency have a really good chance of beating Marth. I can't find a recent top level match of this MU and as such i'm wondering what the evidence here is that DK suddenly bodies Ness, because to my knowledge that doesn't happen. I'm going to record every set of today in this thread under either Upset (Lower seed defeats Higher seed), Notable (Lower seed takes Higher seed to Game 5) or As Expected (Higher seed wins 3-0 or 3-1 against Lower seed). Marth's jab is pretty quick, with just 5 frames of startup, making it pretty good to use right after landing. I don't want to offend anyone by saying you aren't at the highest level or the person you played against isn't. +2 = Advantage. Zain is hoping Genesis will be the start of another great year for him. Keep in mind that you don't need to master everything described in every stage before moving on. My motivation for creating and updating this site is to give players wanting to learn Discord is our online chatroom and meeting place. Marth's bread and butter combos, how to unlock, frame data, alt costumes and skins, as well as Marth's matchups, counters, and tier list placement can all be found here. What the hell is Pika doing there with a 0 against Meta Knight? Matchup totals based on chart 1. Before the tenth tier list was made, Mewtwo had no advantageous match ups, but now it has plenty. Zain got signed by Golden Guardians shortly after winning Genesis 7. Marth can edgeguard sheik. ddd/mk -3. not sure how i feel about that. Woops! If you can get down the timing of the jump, this is a quick and easy combo. He hasnt won any Big Houses yet either. Time decreased between 1st and 2nd hit red]Less lag = Buff[/red]. It is essentially outclassed in every way by using a sliding forward tilt, so you should rarely use DA, if at all. A list of useful guides and resources from various members of the SSBM community; For other characters who are not shown here, we are still investigating the matchup. However, the move only has a horizontal hitbox, so it is difficult to use against opponents who are jumping. I don't consider myself an amazing player by any means, but I do know a lot. A competitive Melee focused extension of the reddit Super Smash Brothers community. about Marth the resource that I wished existed when I was doing the same. 13.0.1 Patch Notes and Balance Changes. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. 1 in the official Smash rankings compiled by Panda Global. It's focus is But it would have like a really real effect.. I think I need to pick up another character for it. I'd say the marth sheik and marth puff matchups are being played very wrong lately, Yea some people have some grossly skewed Marth optimism. Everybody except Young Link has at least one even matchup. Samus is probably slight in favor over Luigi because he cant space as well. Simply grinding tech-skills can get a bit boring at times; these challenges are designed to provide a fun incentive to train difficult techniques. A comprehensive list of the techniques available to Marth in SSBM along with descriptions, explanations, and details on everything - starting from the fundamentals to impractical swag maneuvers. Armada, one of the Five Gods of Melee, won Genesis 2, 3 and 4. Marth's up throw sends opponents very high upward, and can even KO at high percentages (around 200%). It's mostly used as a poking tool, as it is very safe on shield, but it is also excellent for edge guarding. Palette Swap (Super Smash Bros. Therefore it is not necessarily the contemporary opinion of SSBM matchups this year; this is most apparent with characters such as. These are my own opinions, and are not to be taken as 100% correct. It was one of the first big offline LAN tournaments since the onset of the pandemic, and Zain picked up right where he left off. If used right when landing, it can be followed up with another aerial attack. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Given that the old chart is 11 years old, and that I see newer players use it to base their mains quite frequently, I really feel like someone (PGStats really) should create one. Using the side special in the air will also allow Marth to cease moving momentarily, allowing you to mix up your recovery. It's 45-55 in both versions. It can also do a ton of shield damage, and if fully charge, will break shields. 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