Transporting a jammed rifle is not an acceptable option. IMO and per another YT'br the featureless route keeps it functioning as designed minus some ergo bs, and you can still use your legal mags. For an individual to receive a firearm from Cheaper Than Dirt! I agree, I called my local gun store and the pistol grip u can wrap your hands around is illegal. Like many CA residents I am just now hearing about a lot of these law updates and am trying to figure out which way I would like to lean, featureless or new bullet button mod. Thanks! Currently most people believe that going featureless will exempt you from the new AW registration laws in California. Glad we moved from SoCal in 2015 and Live in South Florida now. trademarks of their respective holders. All Rights Reserved | 1068 N. 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Even though the barrel length is already 16inches and the over all length of the rifle is over the 30inch mark. Select a local Federal Firearms Licensed (FFL) Dealer that will accept the firearm and complete the transfer. I heard that the Stock Stop was not CA legal. in cali?.. 1.) To find a list of FFL Dealers in your area area CLICK HERE. If you have a unserialized ar and we have a permanent mag installed, do we still need to be featureless and have it still be legal w/o registering? Hi Mars, it currently is and should be, but I would always ask someone that can give you a concrete answer. Personally, I cannot believe somebody got paid for writing these stupid laws. Yeajust going the more cautious side. Will be we need to register these AR's in Featureless configuration as AW? I use the featureless grip by resurgent arms very comfortable. Sorry, I'm Old School. And since CA is committing so many acts of rebellion, it will be a no-brainer. Great article by the way, short, to the point, has nice visuals, and gives a good list of options and alternatives. Sig P365 Xl Muzzle Device Upgrades In order to make accurate shots, muzzle devices come very handy. So once putting a ARMagLock on my ar15 while keeping all my evil features do I then register with the DOJ that my rifle has a ARMagLock? The featureless grip looks retarded. "When are the majority of Californians going to stop letting a minority of the population (read as the political elites) take away any more of their Constitutional liberties?!?" anything extra and your So with all the new crazy Gun laws.. is the frs stock California legal?? I think it's asking for trouble. If it talks about flash hiding or suppressing in the description, just err on the safe side and dont get it. Nice competition video. Griffin Armament is an independent manufacturer of parts and accessories that fit SIG SAUER pistols; however it is not affiliated with or endorsed by SIG SAUER, Inc. I'm just going to cut my AR-15 up and throw it away. Looking to get back into comp. However, if you make a registered assault weapon (RAW) into a featureless one, you should be able to de-register it later. While I'm not an Oprah fan it's probably a poor choice of graphic. I will not have to register it as an AW? We will be ordering and shipping magazines as long as we are allowed. I am thankful I do not live in either of these states. I just picked up my first (CA) AR and want to be sure I am compliant and dont end up in a bad spot. Type your email address and well send You may choose an FFL Dealer from our preferred listing or you may find a dealer in your area. Just buy a new lower and get the offset bushing for the front pivot hole on the upper (If it was the offset version). Thank you, Did I understand the Bullet button section correctly? I tried using some duct tape and it felt fine. So if I make all necessary changes, can i remove the bullet button to a regular magazine release? As far as I know, there's no rule to force you to take off the bullet button if you go featureless. MUZZLE BRAKE TIMING AND ROCKSETT $44.99; CHECK THREADS/ALIGNMENT $24.99; Step 3. A featureless rifle (in California) is one that does not have any of the following: A featureless rifle allows the use of detachable magazines and lawfully owned standard-capacitymagazines. The P365 redefined what a concealed-carry pistol should be, now the new P365 XL is doing it again. Really liked the pictures and videos for us visual learners also the good reviews so we can find what we need quick and easy to not be felons :D. Great instructional videos. Lol, agreed. Thanks. The Government is just adding new laws one after the other so eventually it will not even be able to work. They are like boiling a frog. Purchase 360 Shipping Or Choose Local Drop Off. BTW, I live in California. This item is currently unavailable. I just usually throw my sights on my friends rifle when we go out plinking and just keep mine torn apart. The author of the original article is *way* overdue for an update on this topic. I'm partial to my AFAB - functions as both a brake (~50% recoil reduction) and a compensator while at the same time outperforming an A2 flash hider in flash reduction (check out TTAG brake/compensator/flash hider comparison parts 1 & 2) - plus it just looks cool! All products and company names are trademarks or registered Do you have any similar advice for AK's? WebFaxons Match Series pistol barrels for SIG P365 & P365XL are machined 100% in-house from stress-relieved 416-R stainless steel. Question: Ive put a Patriot Pin Mag on my AR. They have some upper kits that you would pair with a stripped lower, which you can also purchase from them. Really sad to see what this once a great state is turning into You're welcome Andre! purchase helps support my work in bringing you more awesome gun and gear articles. it's at 1.5'' and might help keep the peace at the range. I am moving to Ca and need to get myself legal or change my weapon to featureless. I'll try to update the article with what comes out about 80% projects. $31.95. Any AR15 style weapon in CT has to either be a pre ban weapon or a firearm categorized as an other. California is madness in action. Hi Todd, I'm not familiar with that lower. gear. So you give in to what they want rather than fight back Seems most have forgot what the guns were truly for. Some Muzzle Brakes Chilling. Bullet-button rifles have a maximum of 10-round magazines. Eric, really good information although I'm still a bit confused on what Californis will do next. The V2 is pretty close to the J-Comp V1it just doesn't state anything about flash suppression in marketing materials. Was it to try and stop the LAPD from shooting so many people at once? There is no official determination either way - however, as Strike understands the law it should be in compliance. but for now, ill have to suffer. John Wick, The Terminal List, Fate of the Furious Watch celebrities and sharp shooters run the range, CCW, Optics, Belt Gear, Springs, Lasers and more, Get the latest updates on new products and upcoming sales, Ask The Automotive Experts anything on Spark-Demo. Free State Mag Release, Bullet Button or Bullet Button Reloaded? World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law enforcement and commercial Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. (2) It's no use, just dump um, save money, and move forward. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Find a FFL Dealer. Thanks for the info and take care! Free shipping for all orders over $39.99 - See our latest arrivals here, (203) 439 - 7784 However, this is set to change in California with the new Gunmageddon Laws. ). We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Everything costs 40% more then anywhere else, traffic jams 365 days a year, smog checks, damn near everything is illegal. As long as the rifle is in one of those two configs, they do not need to be registered. Thank you very much for the speedy response, I appreciate it! Lastly, the length of pull is increased slightly because of the grip. so with the new law coming 1/1/2017 we will still be able to have Featureless AR Rifles? Create your account and enjoy a new shopping experience. Compatible with Sig Sauer P365XL; 9mm SAAMI-spec chamber; Black Nitride finish resists surface wear & corrosion while providing increased surface What do you think of the armaglock alternative? Naturally, the P365 XL has a longer line of sight than the That part is up to you to decide. Can't we just make the stock non-adjustable without damaging the buffet tube? Hey KM, not lawyer but if you remove all the "evil" features I listed in the article you are should not be required to register it as an AW and can currently take the BB off. This would be my first build. I detail what I did for a new build here: How to Blind Pin an Adjustable Stock. Federal law requires firearms to be shipped to FFL Dealers. Enjoy Shotshow! Shark Fin!! I agree. I'd ask forums or the manufacturer. it isn't like the 1770's where people could be self sufficient still. Opposable Grip is much easier than other methods You're going to continue to keep getting screwed over because you don't take the time to do the research for the correct political candidate. Get Our Top Shooting Drills and Zeroing Targets ($47 value - but FREE for a limited time). Im looking for a list of a complete build just on your recommendations on what to buy. overall length : 4.35" / with comp : 4.60", Sportsman Ultra-Light (Hunting) Silencers, Griffin ATM Barrel - Fits SIG P365XL - Threaded 1/2x28 - With Micro Carry Comp, .45 Caliber 3-Lug Adapters Barrel Adapters, Taper Mount Minimalist Stealth Flash Suppressor, CAM-LOK Carry Compensator (9mm & 45cal), Gate-LOK Flash Comp .30cal (7.62mm) 5/8x24. My current favorite featureless grip is the Resurgent Arms. You'll still have to comply with previous rules AFAIK. So pretty much it's impossible to go featureless. I live in California and have been going through this cluster This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm concerned about clearing a jammed receiver with a fixed mag. If there was something the rest of us could do to stop this stuff from happening we would do it. Hintits the AR MagLock + Patriot Pin combo. Chambers are honed and polished to ensure an extremely smooth surface finish and optimal reliability with a wide range of ammunition from training to duty ammo. why would it be bad to have my ar broken down into parts? Very unfortunate, as this is a relatively inexpensive brake. It replicates the same hand hopld of a conventional stock and the check well is perfect without and padding needed. I have two featureless rifles using Thordsten stocks, but I left the Bullet Buttons in. And pass the featureless pistol grip issue? towards your level. Special Thanks to our friends at Premier Shooting & Training in West Chester for allowing us to shoot a portion of the video at their facility. I am Ex Military & Law Enforcement, and can't imagine having to shoot with a rifle like that!! Just finished converting mine to featureless. I purchased my stock AR M&P Sport II in 2016 and I'm in the process of making it featureless. They are trying to dissuade people from buying guns in California. There are better options out there now and it looks like its no longer made anyways! Just for piece of mind. those legislators need to be hauled out into the public square and beaten to a pulp.. Has anyone in California examined the effectiveness of the current laws and made at least a token effort to project how these new draconian infringements on California citizens' constitutional rights will reduce violent crime? Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. I would like the DOJ to tell us which of the products will help to qualify our rifles as "featureless", then I can hold my nose and select a replacement for the evil pistol grip. You do not pay I've tracked its development over the past 8 or 9 months, it seems they have their production issues worked out and have been shipping product. Thanks. There is a bolt action conversion. Not legal advice, I would consult with Patriot Magbut it is meant to make it compliant into 2018 since you need to open the action to activate the mag release. I have removed a muzzle brake and replaced it with a thread protector. If you really love your current buttstock or really want to save money, you can go ahead with blind pinning and epoxying your buttstock. It's common for people here to pin & weld muzzle devices on 14.5 inch barrels in order to meet the 16-inch barrel requirement. I am not certain anyone has mentioned it but Ruger makes an AR-566 Model: 8510 that looks a lot like the Stag shown. Great for regular or precision shootingbut once you start running and gunning, the lack of having your thumb on the opposite side slows you down. AR pistols are a little weird and I don't have a great answer since they are subject to barrel length, no threaded barrels, and even no "shrouds" aka handguards. ok so my question is will u be able to still buy a lower after 1.1.2017??? I believe if you go with a fixed mag you can have an unlimited amount of the features (that are still legalyou might not get away with a grenade launcher without a lot of permits lol). The Worlds #1 source for glock parts & accesories. so as long as you install a patriot mag release you are good and can do whatever you want without registering? It might differ since yours is a shotgun as well. Hi, definitely double-check with a lawyer since I am not, but as far as I understand you should be able to use any release if you register as an AW. WebP365XL STANDARD GRIP MODULE ASSEMBLY - COYOTE $69.99 Add to Cart SPEC1 - 4 OZ PREMIUM BLEND, SYNTHETIC FIREARM LUBRICANT $18.99 Add to Cart Does that mean between Jan 1, 2017 and Dec. 31, 2017 we can keep our "evil features" and with out a bullet button? $50 ish. Features our integrated compensator to reduce muzzle flip and felt recoil by up to 30%. Other devices like suppressors enable you to mitigate the shooting noise of the firearm. I hope not. The only flash hider that is restricted is one that has that as it's only function. Or recommend a place to look? WebOverall, Faxon Firearms Muzzle Devices are a top-of-the-line choice for anyone looking to improve the performance of their firearm. 2. keep it all original but install a "mag lock?" This is copied from their website today, March 3, 2020. I've heard that yes you can but you will have to build it into a featureless since there's no production of AW's. $49.00 (0) No Reviews yet. Web.35 Caliber Radial Port Muzzle Brake Item #: 90699. Joe. Hey all! sales@ndzperformance.com To be notified when back in stock, please enter your email address. Looks like you're running a large mag there, how does that work for competition? Deep aggressive serrations cover the contact points Making all types of slide manipulation direct and effortless. These barrels are then given a black Nitride or Perhaps someone will design a quick release mag floor plate? Also this all comes into affect in 2018 or am I wrong? Thanks KC. I read your article and am very confused. Hi Doug, it's on the second page of the Calguns flowchart. More expensive at $35 but you dont need to drill and pin. Thats the point. Independence is already filed. Sorry in advance if there are some obvious sources that I just haven't had the time to dig for yet. I'd look at the description of the device and/or double-check with the manufacturer/seller. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, WebP365 LASER-SCULPTED ROBINS EGG BLUE GRIP MODULE - GRAYGUNS. I just cancelled my order for one since I don't even want to chance it. I registered it before that 2000 registration requirement. True. (D) Maybe I am just confused with what defines a "fixed" stock but it seems that there is still 2 viable locations in which you can shoulder the firearm and fire it. Icarus Precision states We are excited to offer our first custom slide for the P365 and P365XL. Flash suppressors usually come in two flavorsbirdcage and multi-prong. WebStart here at the SIG SAUER Store online! I downloaded the PDF and it looks like a list of states and a little blurb. There are a couple of people making a maglock type system for the AK but like you saw, they require some weird workarounds. I have not shot it yet but will be shooting more suppressed than with comp. Great article and summary. I have an ar maglock on my lower and was wondering if I could put a boyds wood stock and pistol grip on it? The world is Against America, and America is against California. ( Just the pistol grip needed to be changed ). Thanks, man, you saved me some time. Out of Stock. I'm not Eric, but you could totally buy a lower and set it up as featureless. Is there an ar 15 that don't require a magazine, or a 5 round magazine aviable? Independence is already filed. Thanks. MagGuts +2. It is a very common compliance option and one that several of us at PPT use. and the Cheaper Than Dirt symbol are registered trademarks of Direct Investments LTD. America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter. WebDescription. Considering that the Stock Stop has been on the market for years and I've never heard of any case being brought against someone for using it, I would view it as a very safe option legally. The biggest aesthetic and functional change youll do in your quest to go featureless. Select what level shooter you are! You can use legally owned regular capacity (I consider 10 rounds low capacity) mags for competition. No doubt, thousands of California AR-15 owners will be modifying to a fixed mag configuration in order to avoid registration and the inevitable confiscation that will follow. Note: Bayonets and bayonet lugs are not assault weapon characteristics under California law. Here's the flow chart might clear up things. Key Points : Anti-Resonance flutes to prevent pinging under fire Taper ensures solid lock up and minimal/repeatable POI shift Thanks for your research and help. Here is what they say for CA: hi eric, thanks for all the info for us californians. The barrels drop into factory-spec slides with no gunsmithing required. buy two and it makes swapping out much quicker while still staying legal. The big snag for me comes from DOJ's lack of commitment/approval of components and in overcoming esthetics prejudice regarding the replacement of the pistol grip. If this is the case then going with the new button would be the cheapest way to go. What brand/model are the muzzle brake/compensator that you are currently using in your competition guns? Click below for a FREE LESSON! I ought to remove them? will not accept a return or exchange under any circumstance. Any thoughts on whether or not the AR Spur will fly in Ca. The FFL Dealer will usually charge a fee to conduct the transfer. When are the majority of Californians going to stop letting a minority of the population (read as the political elites) take away any more of their Constitutional liberties?!? All of mine are featureless now so it's ok to me! If I were to build an AR using something like the ARMagLock (so, basically fixed mag), does this then mean that I could have BOTH a pistol grip AND a collapsible buttstock? The media plays to the crowd, so it just keeps getting worse. Or would I be limited to either/or? The use of SIG SAUER on this page is merely to advertise the sale of compatible parts or components. Sig Sauer P365 9mm 15-Round Magazine. Affordable, sturdy, and theres no questioning that it is fixed. Ya, eventually the featureless will be banned too and then they'll know you have it. How about I f I just buy a Mini 14 or a Mini 30 and not worry about it all the Comifornia laws? Getting close to the deadline. I have the same one and trying to track origin. Will featureless be banned ? Now I've got all these parts laying around that I can't even put to use. As gun owners, we completely understand how ridiculous it is to think that forcing us to hold our rifles a different way is going to reduce crime. Looks like if yours are not on the appendix lists on page 2 you really need not worry if your magazine is considered non detachable meaning you're using a bullet button, radlock or similar device. WebMuzzle Brakes Round Limiters Sights Sling Mounts Stocks & Accessories NDZ Performance Sig Sauer P365XL Threaded Barrel and Thread Protector in Match Grade It simply mocks her ignorance. I used to compete in NC and am just bringing over my AR and converting. Some good info here: http://www.80percentarms.com/pages/faq, So I've been kind of looking around the internet on this topic and by looking at the different grip options supposedly compliant. Confused by all these new laws and what makes an AR-15 featureless so you might not haveto register it as an assault weapon (AW)? Hi Jack, AFAIK it will be illegal to buy or sell AW after 1/1/2017 and you have until 1/1/2018 to register or make featureless/fixed mag (that requires opening up the action instead of the regular bullet button). The FFL Dealer will begin processing the shipment. And now I hope to answer some of yours! Get proficient on YOUR time. "Fixed stock" in the PC has a fairly grey definition, but it doesn't say anything about it needing to be perfectly unable to move even in the slightest. Pick up your firearm from the FFL Dealer, who will need to do a criminal and mental health background check. All it takes is drilling through the buttstock and some of the buffer tube, putting in a rollpin, and epoxying it over. I just purchased a UTAS xtr 12 shotgun..and I'm so worried it won't be legal come Jan 2017. Did i understand the Bullet Buttons in Dealer that will accept the firearm quicker p365xl muzzle brake still legal! 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